Model Groups / Sorting

[DeepOne]

So I want to be able to sort models…how do I accomplish this?

I can add models to model groups, but I have seen very few options to actually show these groups.

I can add categories and tags to models, but this only sorts the videos the models appear in, not the models themselves.

I want to have:

Two main model groups/categories: Celebrities and Pornstars

Then I want to break the Celebrities group up into smaller sub groups such as: Actresses, Popstars, Kpop, etc.

Is this possible, and if so can you give me some guidelines on how to accomplish?

I have found people like searching for videos by model much more than by video categories/tags, and yet there seem to be practically no model sorting options. Such as: All Latina models. All blonde models, all 18 year old models, etc.

Also in the documentation it says that “Models” are essentially the same thing as “categories”. But that doesn’t seem to be accurate. If it were, shouldnt they have the same functionality and be able to be sorted in the same way categories are? Or have pictures made automatically in the same way pictures are automatically made for categories?

Edited March 20 by DeepOne

[Tech Support]

In KVS terms we use "sort" to indicate the "ordering" of some objects, but I guess you probably mean some kind of grouping / categorization.

Models do support categories and tags, and you can have filtering of model lists by categories for sure, similar to videos, but this is not coded into themes. You have to do some designing for this.

39 minutes ago, DeepOne said:

Two main model groups/categories: Celebrities and Pornstars

These are likely model groups.

40 minutes ago, DeepOne said:

Then I want to break the Celebrities group up into smaller sub groups such as: Actresses, Popstars, Kpop, etc.

These are likely categories, as only 1 level of grouping is possible. Because I guess a model can be both in Popstars and Kpop, this is not possible with groups.

Also since model blocks are switched to nextgen API, it will be soon possible to programmatically add some additional categorization, with just few changes and being applied to the whole KVS. For example it would be possible to add additional categorization level, for example Niches to models and allow specifying them separately from categories (if you don't want to use categories for that and model groups are not enough). However, we didn't yet migrate categorization admin panel GUI to nextgen, so this would not be possible at the moment.

42 minutes ago, DeepOne said:

Also in the documentation it says that “Models” are essentially the same thing as “categories”. But that doesn’t seem to be accurate. If it were, shouldnt they have the same functionality and be able to be sorted in the same way categories are?

What you mean by this? What functionality is not possible with models, that is possible with categories?

42 minutes ago, DeepOne said:

Or have pictures made automatically in the same way pictures are automatically made for categories?

How do you expect this to work please? For categories the plugin to autogenerate a thumb will take one of the video thumbs for videos of that category. If we use the same approach for models, it would make sense only for few % of thumbs that randomly and luckily depict model in stable view. The rest majority of model thumbs would be some blurred scene from some angle where you can't clearly see who is depicted and even several different people on the scene.

[DeepOne]

15 hours ago, Tech Support said:

How do you expect this to work please? For categories the plugin to autogenerate a thumb will take one of the video thumbs for videos of that category. If we use the same approach for models, it would make sense only for few % of thumbs that randomly and luckily depict model in stable view. The rest majority of model thumbs would be some blurred scene from some angle where you can't clearly see who is depicted and even several different people on the scene.

Yes you are right about this, it would not be a great solution but it would be nice as a temporary placeholder, seeing that adding model photos is quite time consuming and nothing is worse than no photo. Though I imagine neuroscore.ai could detect faces in scenes, score them, and present user with the top options, basically same thing it does for screenshots but with a added focus on faces.

15 hours ago, Tech Support said:

Models do support categories and tags, and you can have filtering of model lists by categories for sure, similar to videos, but this is not coded into themes. You have to do some designing for this.

Okay thank you. I'm going to be having kvs-themes help me with a few things, so ill be adding this to the list.

[Tech Support]

3 hours ago, DeepOne said:

it would be nice as a temporary placeholder

Could be done with using template functions. For example use pull_videos option in list_models block to pull a video for each model and display one of its thumb. But makes no practical sense, you will probably see that when you start using it.

3 hours ago, DeepOne said:

Though I imagine neuroscore.ai could detect faces in scenes, score them, and present user with the top options, basically same thing it does for screenshots but with a added focus on faces.

Probably yes, but expensive because you need to generate and process a lot of screenshots to find out the suitable image. And no guarantee the face it detects will be the actual model face, could be somebody else who appears in the video.

[Alex]

On 3/20/2024 at 11:41 AM, Tech Support said:

However, we didn't yet migrate categorization admin panel GUI to nextgen, so this would not be possible at the moment.

When can we expect this migration? The middle of this year, the end of the year...?

[Tech Support]

Probably somewhere this year, we are quite close to finalize it.